tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:forum-7Nabble - Dialysis Chairs2024-03-28T17:22:44ZTechnical assistance, advice tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1862Re: Battery backup or not2020-02-04T04:23:17Z2020-02-04T04:23:17ZChris Bates
We have specified battery backup for ages now. Not entirely sure if we really need it. I don't think it has ever been needed due to mains failure, but it is comforting to have.
<br/>The old Bionic chairs had 2 PP3 batteries for backup, which were only enough for a couple of movements - they were always empty because by the time people realised the chair wasn't plugged in the batteries were dead.
<br/>We are mainly beds in the main unit and mainly chairs in satellites.
<br/>One unit was built with doors too narrow to get beds in !
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1856Re: Battery backup or not2020-02-03T07:52:35Z2020-02-03T07:52:35ZChris Pearson
On ours the Battery has a 5th motor to drive the footrest,if you spec an ECO with a 5th motor the price is very close so the only downside to specifying a Battery is they only last about 3 years and need replacing.
<br/>The upsides are that the chair can be used if the cleaners rip the 13A plug off for a while whilst you can replace it, you can test the chair without mains present which is great for fault finding in the workshop and the chair can be used in a corridor if necessary e.g. acute admissions units and no beds free..
<br/><br/>Hope this helps,I agree they are very rarely needed for mains failure.
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tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1852Re: Chairs ....or beds?2020-01-31T06:40:32Z2020-01-31T06:40:32Zfraser gilmour
The only time we have beds is when they wheel in-patients down from wards(<10%), and that's a squeeze. This is the case for our main unit and one of our satellites which is attached to a hospital. Our outpatients aren't offered them as an option, space for storage would be our issue too.
<br/><br/>We've just had a satellite unit refit and the first plan that came out showed 20% as bed bays, I think partly to cater for bariatric. Somewhere along the line it's gone back to 100% chairs.
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1846Re: Chairs ....or beds?2020-01-29T04:22:11Z2020-01-29T04:22:11ZJohn Moore
In our main o/p unit 25 out of 45 stations are beds. Our satellites are chairs only.
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1844Re: Chairs ....or beds?2020-01-28T05:58:00Z2020-01-28T05:58:00ZChris Bates
There are a few Bed/Chairs, claiming to offer the best of both worlds.
<br/>Likamed do a couple and I have seen others (possibly through LinC)
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1843Re: Chairs ....or beds?2020-01-28T02:11:38Z2020-01-28T02:11:38ZPaul J McCarthy
Hi With us the satellite units are in the main chairs, with a few beds. But in our main unit we have normally only one or two chairs, with the rest beds. Originally it was the other way round. It seemed like as soon as one person was on a bed then every one wanted one.
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1842Chairs ....or beds?2020-01-28T01:01:36Z2020-01-28T01:01:36ZGarry
It seems our main unit may not be alone in the fact that the majority of dialysis points are occupied by beds. Would be grateful if others could feedback as to the use of beds in any of their units and the rough percentage in use?
<br/><br/>The increased medical cover at our main unit makes it the preferred choice for acutes and less mobile chronic patients. Maybe linked to an increasing age of the dialysis population but over time our unit, originally specified for 30 points of use with treatment chairs, has covertly moved to a majority of beds. On some shifts we may have only around 4 chairs in use. The department's initial view is to make an effort to return, where possible, to chairs as the logistics of storing the spare chairs, swapping beds, health and safety (form space restraints) and infection control concerns is a nightmare.
<br/><br/>Personally, given the choice, I'd prefer to be on a bed for a 4 hour treatment. Likewise, many of our healthier patents see the others on beds and request that choice.
<br/><br/>We thought we were isolated in this situation but maybe not?
<br/><br/>Have also noticed a few beds appearing at satellite units, initially to allow capacity to managed. Is this a trend?
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1837Re: Battery backup or not2020-01-24T06:29:33Z2020-01-24T06:29:33ZJohn Moore
We don't specify battery back-up on our chairs. We did have a few years ago but I don't think they were ever used!
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1835Re: Battery backup or not2020-01-24T02:56:27Z2020-01-24T02:56:27ZGarry
Beds have taken over at our main unit, though satellites still remain predominantly chairs.
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1830Re: Battery backup or not2020-01-23T11:09:45Z2020-01-23T11:09:45ZIan Wilde
Hi Garry, I've never heard of this spec at our place. The only chairs we have these days are for home dialysis and they don't have battery backup. For whatever reason our patients are all on beds.
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tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1828Re: Names of companies2020-01-23T05:57:18Z2020-01-23T05:57:18ZGarry
We have a full fleet of Comfort 4 chairs supplied through Health tech medical. A this is a bit of an old thread, any other current suppliers to update the list?
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-1827Battery backup or not2020-01-23T05:53:21Z2020-01-23T05:53:21ZGarry
Hi All,
<br/><br/>Could I ask, in the days of backup generators, are units still specifying battery back option for their dialysis treatment chairs (or have you ever)? We always have but I can only remember one instance, in 10 years, when it may have been used and that was not an emergency.
<br/><br/>Thanks
tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-350Likamed Selexa hybrid chair/bed2015-06-22T05:42:01Z2015-06-22T05:42:01ZChris Pearson
We would like to announce that the new Selexa A5 ZA hybrid bed/chair launched at the recent EDTA meeting in London is now available from Health Tec Medical.
<br/><br/><br/><a href="http://www.likamed.de/main/en/products/170-selexa" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">http://www.likamed.de/main/en/products/170-selexa</a>
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tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-144Re: Names of companies2015-02-01T08:52:21Z2015-02-01T08:52:21ZIan Wilde
Cheers Peter,
<br/><br/>That gives me plenty to go at.
<br/><br/>Just need to get some in on trial now and see what the staff and patients think.
<br/><br/>Thanks again.
<br/><br/>Ian.
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tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-143Re: Names of companies2015-02-01T06:34:27Z2015-02-01T06:34:27Zpeter jones
Hi Ian,
<br/><br/>We use Healthtec comfort 4 chairs with extra thick padding which meets our tissue viability requirements for pressure sores. Never had any issues, and can take a decent weight.
<br/><br/>Other companies are;
<br/><br/>Linc Medical
<br/>Gambro
<br/>Fresenius
<br/>Acime frame
<br/>Braun may have one?
<br/><br/>I don't think Hymed exists anymore?
<br/>regards
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tag:art-forum.84.s1.nabble.com,2006:post-59Names of companies2015-01-14T04:22:47Z2015-01-14T04:22:47ZIan Wilde
Just thought I'd start a thread on the different suppliers of chairs out there as we are looking at a couple but there seems to be very limited choice.
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